Post: Stat recovery

by Shadow at 197.53/01:501 GCT (edited by Shadow at 199.66/86:689 GCT)

[PLEASE NOTE: The regeneration rates have changed substantially since this initial post. For more recent data, please read the thread or visit the Tau Player's Guide.]

It looks to me as if stats regenerate at 3% per tick if you have no other bonuses. I'm sure others have been keeping track better than I, so I'd greatly appreciate all input on/corrections to the following:

  • Nothing: +3%
  • Hotel: +4%
  • Well Fed: +4%
  • Hotel + Well Fed: +5% Focus, +4% other
  • VIP: +6%
  • VIP + Hotel: +10-11% Focus, +6-7% other
  • VIP + Well Fed: +12-13% Focus, +8% other
  • VIP + Well Fed + Hotel: +12-13% Focus, +8-9% other

The variations rates are throwing me.

Replies

  1. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by Shadow at 197.74/66:103 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Stat recovery

    Caveat: Either the rates were tweaked or Healthcare 1 is having an unexpected effect: My base recovery is now only 2%.

  2. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by Shadow at 197.75/10:148 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Stat recovery

    I tend to agree with you about rounding being a cause for variation. From what I can tell, these are my current recovery rates now that I have Healthcare 1:

    • Healthcare 1: +2%
    • Healthcare 1 + Hotel: +4%
    • Healthcare 1 + Well Fed: +3% Focus, +4.5% other
    • Healthcare 1 + Hotel + Well Fed: +5% Focus, +4.5% other
    • Healthcare 1 + VIP: +10% Focus, +6.5% other
    • Healthcare 1 + VIP + Hotel: +12-13% Focus, +8.5% other
    • Healthcare 1 + VIP + Well Fed: +13% Focus, +8.5% other
    • Healthcare 1 + VIP + Well Fed + Hotel: +16% Focus, +10.5% other

    Some anomalies persuade me that I should have recorded more than one data set, especially in the Hotel Room. Meanwhile, some recovery rates have actually gotten worse?! So either Healthcare 1 is bugged, or--more likely--they've rejiggered recovery rates since my initial post. (Or my initial figures were wrong, but Dotsent confirmed them.)

  3. Subject: Healthcare 2

    by Shadow at 197.81/16:681 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Stat recovery

    Tentative figures:

    • Healthcare 2: +2-3%
    • Healthcare 2 + Hotel: +4-5%
    • Healthcare 2 + Well Fed: +4-5%
    • Healthcare 2 + Hotel + Well Fed: +6-7%
  4. Subject: Re: Re: Stat recovery

    by moritz at 197.81/86:835 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Stat recovery

    So, I have to partially contradict my own statement.

    In the combination VIP Pack + Healthcare 2 + Hotel Room, my regeneration sequence for Focus was 10, 11, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, 10 -- clearly not increasing over time.

    But, in the combination Well Fed + Healthcare 2 + Hotel Room, the sequence was 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 6, where the first 5 cannot be explained simply by rounding.

  5. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by Shadow at 197.82/85:400 GCT (edited by Shadow at 197.82/85:465 GCT)

    Replying to: Re: Re: Stat recovery

    I've observed something similar, and I have a nascent theory: I suspect the benefits of being in a hotel room kick in exactly when you enter, rather than looking solely at where you are at the precise moment of the next stat tick. So when you enter a hotel room between ticks, you may get only some of the increased benefits, and with rounding you might end up seeing a lower percentage for that first tick only.

    If this theory is correct, then I suspect it's to prevent players from trying to game the system by timing it so they're back in the hotel room just before each tick, and leaving to go do stuff just after each tick. (This, incidentally, is why I mentioned a couple of posts back that "I should have recorded more than one data set, especially in the Hotel Room.")

  6. Subject: Re: Re: Stat recovery

    by moritz at 197.82/88:154 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Stat recovery

    If I understood your theory correctly, it says that the benefit is proportional to the time you actually spent inside the hotel room.

    That fits well with another observation I had made before: the benefit from being well fed seemed to present in the next tick after it had expired.

    If this turns out to be true, I must say I'm rather impressed by the effort that went into implementing all of this. Tracking all this data and calculating the overlaps is quite some work, and easy to get wrong in edge cases.

  7. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by Shadow at 198.39/99:963 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Re: Stat recovery

    I'm revising this theory: Now I think the Hotel benefits don't kick in at all unless you've been in the room for a full tick. Anything else is just rounding weirdness.

  8. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by Shadow at 198.38/99:189 GCT (edited by Shadow at 198.39/99:855 GCT)

    Replying to: Stat recovery

    Tentative results after Healthcare Mastery:

    • Healthcare 3: 3% (7/8 3%, 1/8 2%)
    • Healthcare 3 + Hotel: 5%
    • Healthcare 3 + Well Fed: +5%
    • Healthcare 3 + Well Fed + Hotel: +7%
    • Healthcare 3 + VIP: 11% Focus, 7% other
    • Healthcare 3 + VIP + Hotel: 14% Focus (3/4 14%, 1/4 13%), 9% other (10/13 9%, 3/13 10%)
    • Healthcare 3 + VIP + Well Fed: +14% Focus, +9% other
    • Healthcare 3 + VIP + Well Fed + Hotel: +17% Focus, +11% other (3/4 11%, 1/4 12%)
  9. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by Shadow at 198.40/00:463 GCT

    Replying to: Re: Stat recovery

    So excluding the occasional rounding weirdness, I am prepared to declare the following with Healthcare Mastery:

    • Base recovery is 3% per tick.
    • "Well Fed" and a Hotel Room each give a +2% stat recovery increase across the board. With both the bonus is +4%.
    • VIP gives +4% to physical/mental stats and +8% to Focus.
    • VIP also increases the Well Fed and Hotel bonuses to +3% for Focus only (which makes sense, viewed as 0.02 of the maximum and VIP increasing maximum Focus to 150%).
  10. Subject: Re: Stat recovery

    by SandwichMaker at 199.64/30:219 GCT (edited by SandwichMaker at 199.64/30:396 GCT)

    Replying to: Stat recovery

    "stats regenerate at 3% per tick" -- what's a tick? I can't align these numbers with any in-game or out-of-game temporal unit. For me, full regeneration of a stat takes about 4.1 segments (VIP + hotel room).

    Likewise the player guide says that stats regenerate "every five minutes", and supposedly that's without bonuses. What kind of minute are they talking about?